– Outlook: North Boone and Valley Lutheran dropped out of the conference, leaving defending champ Richmond Burton, Genoa-Kingston, Harvard and Burlington Central to battle for the top spot.
– 1989 State Qualifiers: Richmond Burton (lost in semifinals), Harvard (lost to Marmion in quarterfinals), Burlington Central (lost to Marian Central in semifinals).
– Top players: QB Chad Komar (6-1 1/2, 180), TE Scott Deleskiewicz (6-4, 200), Richmond-Burton. QB Mike Leyden (6-0, 165), FB-LB Rich Haffner, (5-10, 185), Harvard. HB John Rutkowski (5-9, 165), Burlingon Central. HB Roger Seiling
(5-10, 160), Genoa-Kingston.
– Quotable: Richmond Burton coach Randy Hofman: ”We won the conference title eight out of the last nine years. It may be different this year because of the more wide open race.”
– Key games: Burlington Central at Richmond-Burton Sept. 14, Harvard at Richmond-Burton Oct. 5.
– Predicted finish: Richmond Burton, Harvard, Burlington Central, Genoa-Kingston, Huntley, Hampshire.
CATHOLIC NORTH
– Outlook: No. 1 Mt. Carmel has a handful of Division I prospects and perhaps the best coaching staff around. Loyola`s juniors took the soph Catholic League crown in `89.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Mt. Carmel (Class 5A champions); Gordon Tech (lost in first round).
– Top players: OT Charles Edwards (6-3, 260), RB Bobby Sanders (5-10, 205), QB Mike McGrew, (5-10, 182), Mt. Carmel. QB Peter Patton (6-0, 190), DT Alex Ilich (6-6, 278), Loyola. OT Jason Lach (6-3, 225), Weber. CB Mike Ambrosino (5-9, 160) Fenwick. OT-DT Richard Dongus (6-4, 260), QB Jim McDonagh (6-2, 185), Gordon Tech.
– Quotable: 1990 Ill. High School Football Coaches Assn. Hall of Fame inductee Tom Winiecki of Gordon: ”For some reason, the kids stay 18 and I keep getting a year older. There`s no fountain of youth at the Hall of Fame.”
– Key games: Gordon at Mt. Carmel Sept. 23, Loyola at Mt. Carmel Oct. 21, Loyola at Gordon Oct. 7.
– Predicted order of finish: Mt. Carmel, Loyola, Gordon Tech, Fenwick, Weber, Brother Rice.
CATHOLIC SOUTH
– Outlook: St. Rita moves to a new campus (the old Quigley South) and loses the tradition of old Cronin Field. But Todd Wernet still has the horses for another South title. Look for a high-powered passing game out of St. Laurence and improvement at De La Salle.
– 1989 state qualifiers: St. Rita (lost in second round).
– Top players: CB Tracy Graham (5-11, 180), CB Reggie Bracken (5-11, 170), OT-DT Tom Dennis (6-5, 265), St. Rita. TE Marko Jurkovic (6-4, 210), St. Francis de Sales. QB Jason Gregus (6-3, 200), TE Steve Pabst (6-3, 205), RB John Conroy (6-1, 190), St. Laurence.
– Quotable: St. Rita coach Todd Wernet: ”The phenomenal thing about last year was that we went undefeated in the regular season and never got our second unit in there.”
– Key games: Mt. Carmel at St. Rita Sept. 22, St. Laurence at St. Rita Oct. 27.
– Predicted order of finish: St. Rita, St. Laurence, De La Salle, Leo, St. Francis de Sales, St. Martin de Porres.
CSL NORTH
– Outlook: Defending champion Highland Park, which edged Deerfield at home in its final regular season game, figures to fight it out with the Warriors once more. Coach Jay Geerdes has 10 returning starters, as opposed to Deerfield`s four. Flip a coin.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Deerfield (lost in first round), Highland Park (lost in second round.)
– Top players: FB Brian Davis, (6-2, 210), LB Ed Franowicz (6-3, 250); OT Tony Volpentesta (6-1, 235) Highland Park. OT-DT Mike Adams, (6-2, 235); RB Geoff Shein, (6-1, 195), RB Rocky Pontikes (6-1, 195), Deerfield.
– Quotable: Highland Park coach Jay Geerdes: ”Confidence breeds more success and expectations are higher, so there`s not a whole lot a coach or anyone needs to do here. The returning players who already went through it know what it takes.”
– Key games: Highland Park at Deerfield Oct. 6; Deerfield at Evanston Sept. 22.
– Predicted order of finish: Highland Park, Deerfield, Niles W., Glenbrook N., Maine W., Maine E.
CSL SOUTH
– Outlook: Evanston and New Trier again head up the CSL South. The Wildkits lack an experienced QB, but should be well-tested by the end, with a nonconference schedule that includes Belvidere (11-1), Deerfield (8-2) and Highland Park (9-2).
– 1989 state qualifiers: Evanston (lost in second round), Maine South (lost in first round), New Trier (lost in first round).
– Top players: RB Dante Wharton (6-1, 180), OT-DT Reggie Fleurima (6-4, 240), ILB Ray Joy (5-11, 170), Evanston. DB Prentice Davis (5-10, 175), Waukegan. RB Rashaan Caldwell (5-8, 168), Waukegan. SE Bill Schmitz (6-2, 175), Maine S. QB Peter McDowell, (6-1, 185).
– Quotable: Evanston coach John Riehle: ”We`re touting our schedule as the toughest in the state. We honestly feel we can beat everyone on it, but everyone can beat us, too.”
– Key games: New Trier at Evanston Oct. 27, Glenbrook S. at Evanston Sept. 15, Glenbrook S. at New Trier Oct. 13.
– Predicted order of finish: Evanston, New Trier, Waukegan, Glenbrook S., Maine S.
DU PAGE VALLEY
– Outlook: Naperville North won last year and looks strong again. Wheaton Central, Naperville Central and Wheaton North could surprise.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Naperville N. (lost in quarterfinals), Naperville C. (lost in first round), Wheaton N. (lost in second round), Wheaton C. (lost in semifinals).
– Top players: QB-DB Garrick Cox (6-2, 197), Wheaton N. RB-DB Bill Korosec
(6-1, 185), Naperville N. RB Marvell Scott (5-10, 215), Wheaton C. SE Mark Ede (6-2, 190), Glenbard N. QB Eric Lewandowski (5-8, 165), OT-DT Greg Bloedhorn (6-6, 235), Glenbard S. QB Keith Cunningham (6-1, 175), LB Matt Armstrong (5-11, 200), Naperville C.
– Quotable: Wheaton North coach Jim Rexilius: ”I hope we can continue the tradition at Wheaton North. That`s one of our greatest assets.”
– Key games: Naperville N. at Wheaton N. Sept. 14, Wheaton N. at Naperville C. Oct. 19, Naperville C. at Naperville N. Oct. 26.
– Predicted finish: Naperville N., Wheaton C., Naperville C., Wheaton N., Glenbard N., Glenbard S., W. Chicago, Glenbard E.
E. SUBURBAN CATHOLIC
– Outlook: St. Patrick is the team to beat with seven returning starters on offense. Joliet Catholic is top challenger.
– 1989 state qualifiers: St. Patrick (lost in first round), Joliet Catholic
(lost in quarterfinals), Carmel (lost in quarterfinals), Notre Dame (lost in semifinals).
– Top players: OT John Horn (6-6, 250), Joliet Catholic. TE Brian Kopf (6-6, 220), FB Brian DeGustino (5-10, 205), St. Patrick. OT Tom Gaynor (6-6, 255), OT Matt Riordan (6-4, 260), Marist. OT-DT Justin Kovarsky (6-1, 250), HB Jerry Foster (5-9, 155), Carmel. DE Garrett LaFleur (6-2, 245), HB Nader Mossavi
(5-11, 180), Holy Cross.
– Quotable: St. Patrick coach John Gruber: ”There is a chance that two teams could go undefeated in the conference, it could result in not having a true champion.”
– Key games: St. Patrick at Carmel Oct. 26, Marist at Joliet Catholic Oct. 5, Carmel at Marist Sept. 21.
– Predicted order of finish: St. Patrick, Jol. Catholic, Carmel, Marist, Marian Catholic, Benet, Holy Cross, Notre Dame, St. Viator, St. Joseph.
FOX VALLEY
– Outlook: Woodstock, one of three tri-champs last year, is the pick to win again. Dundee-Crown and Crystal Lake South are contenders.
– 1989 State Qualifiers: McHenry (lost in first round), Woodstock (lost in semifinals).
– Top Players: FB-LB Kurt Bentsen (6-2, 209), OT-DT Bill O`Brien (6-0, 227), Woodstock. OG-NG J. Piper (6-2, 235), OT Ron Neece (6-4, 255), McHenry. QB Matt Kaulig (6-2, 185), WR Brian Collins (5-9, 160), CL South. QB-RB Matt Lynch (6-3, 187), DT-TE Jason Stahl (6-6, 235), DL Matt Rueckman (6-3, 255), Dundee-Crown. OG Jeff Peterson (6-0, 200), Jacobs; RB Chris Steiner (5-9, 175), Cary-Grove. DB-TB Dave Beazley (6-0, 175), CL Central.
– Quotable: Woodstock coach Bob Bradshaw: ”We`ve got size and we`ve got ability, what we don`t have is a lot of experience.”
– Key Games: Woodstock at CL South Sept. 21, Woodstock at D-C Oct. 20, CL South at D-C Sept. 15.
– Predicted order of finish: Woodstock, Dundee-Crown, CL South, McHenry, CL Central, Cary-Grove, Jacobs.
INTERSTATE EIGHT
– Outlook: Even though Yorkville, Seneca and Coal City were Tri-Champions last year, Yorkville is the team to beat. But Wilmington could contend.
– 1989 State Qualifiers: Yorkville (lost in first round); Seneca (lost in second round); Coal City (lost in second round).
– Top Players: TB Bruce Runkle (5-11, 209), OG Chris Sutcliff (6-0, 240), OT Nick Debb (6-2, 220), Yorkville. QB Mark Aubry (6-2, 165), RB Paul Bauer (6-0, 180), LB Steve Holcomb (5-7, 165), Seneca. DL Joaquin Corral (5-7, 160), RB Bob Olsen (5-11, 180), Plano.
– Quotable: Seneca coach Dave Lett: ”Yorkville is awfully tough for our conference . . . but they are not invincible. In this conference, anybody can beat anybody on any given night.”
– Key Games: Yorkville at Seneca Oct. 12, Sencea at Coal City Oct. 19, Coal City at Yorkville Oct. 26, Yorkville at Wilmington Sept. 14.
– Predicted order of finish: Yorkville, Seneca, Coal City, Plano, Wilmington, Sandwich, Dwight, Reed-Custer.
LITTLE SEVEN
– Outlook: Morris and Oswego should fight it out for the title.
– 1989 State Qualifiers: Defending champion Morris (13-1) lost to Richards in overtime in the Class 4A final, Oswego (lost in the first round), Waubonsie Valley (lost in first round).
– Top players: QB John Darlington (6-2, 200), RB Naser Baftiri (5-10, 175), OT Greg Newman (6-4, 260), OG-DT Allen Johnson (6-2, 250), Morris. QB Scott Carlson (6-0, 210), Sycamore. LB Jason Vasconez (5-11, 210), Waubonsie Valley. QB John Bartkowski (6-1, 215), Batavia. WR J. Michels (5-11), 175), WR Chad Gutierrez (5-9, 155), Oswego.
– Quotable: Morris coach Dan Darlington: ”Anybody beats Morris, it makes their season. We understand that. It`s been that way for years. But, if these kids play to their abilities, this team has the potential to be the best we`ve ever had.”
– Key games: Oswego at Morris Oct. 19, Oswego at Sycamore Sept. 21, Waubonsie Valley at Oswego Sept. 14.
– Predicted finish: Morris, Oswego, Sycamore, Waubonsie Valley, Batavia, Plainfield, Kaneland, Geneva.
MID-SUBURBAN NORTH
– Outlook: It should be a battle between two of the most potent offenses in the area, guided by quarterbacks Ryan Kubacki of Barrington and Jeff Hecklinski of Palatine.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Palatine (lost in semifinals), Buffalo Grove (lost in second round), Barrington (lost in first round).
– Top players: QB Ryan Kubacki (6-1, 190), RB Rob Gillespie (6-1, 195), Barrington. QB Jeff Hecklinski (6-4, 175), Palatine. WR Mark Cushing (5-8, 150), DB Todd Garifo (5-9, 160), Buffalo Grove. DB-WR Johan Dinkelmann (6-4, 212), Fremd. FB Bob Kirch (5-10, 175), Hersey.
– Quotable: Hersey coach Bruce Glover: ”Everybody`s optimistic. If you`re a high school football coach and you don`t like your kids at this time of year, you`re in the wrong business. Sometimes eagerness to play overcomes everything.”
– Key games: Palatine at Barrington Oct. 13, Barrington at Buffalo Grove Oct. 6, Palatine at Buffalo Grove, Oct. 27.
– Predicted finish: Palatine, Barrington, Buffalo Grove, Hersey, Fremd, Wheeling.
MID-SUBURBAN SOUTH
– Outlook: Conant is favored to grind out a division title behind its talented and experienced offensive line despite a stiff challenge from Rolling Meadows and quarterback Mike Sowka.
– 1989 state qualifier: Conant (lost in semifinals).
– Top players: WR Vaurice Patterson (6-1, 170), LB Brett Sharkey (6-1, 195), Conant. QB Mike Sowka (6-0, 165), Rolling Meadows. TE Lashon Ludington (6-4, 205), Hoffman Estates. RB Mike Giometti (5-8, 150), Schaumburg. LB Keith Wagenknecht (6-0, 195), Prospect. QB Steve Shumacher (6-3, 185), Elk Grove.
– Quotable: Conant coach Dave Pendergast: ”We don`t have the overall team depth we`ve had in the past and I don`t know how our inexperienced backfield
(composed of three underclassmen) will respond in pressure situations.”
– Key games: Rolling Meadows at Conant Oct. 12, Hoffman Estates at Conant Sept. 27, Rolling Meadows at Hoffman Estates Oct. 27.
– Predicted finish: Conant, Rolling Meadows, Hoffman Estates, Prospect, Schaumburg, Elk Grove.
NORTHEAST
– Outlook: Minooka has intimidated in the past with its size but watch Lemont under rookie coach Ken Ferry and its new option offense featuring fullback John Kupczyk.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Minooka (lost in first round).
– Top players: QB Ron Tibble (6-3, 190), OG Josh Martin (6-0, 190), Minooka. TB-DB John Kutrubis (5-11, 175), Elmwood Park. SS-LB Jamie Thompson (5-11, 175), QB Charlie Cassidy (5-10, 170), WR Mike Case (5-7, 145), Evergreen Park. FB John Kupczyk (5-9, 190), Lemont. QB Chris Dockery (6-3, 180), Lisle. RB Scott Sterba (6-1, 180), MLB Ed Casmere (6-1, 210), Westmont.
– Quotable: Evergreen Park coach Brett Nelson on its run-and-shoot offense under offensive coordinator Mike Williams, who played under Mouse Davis in the USFL: ”It is not modified at all, this is the real thing.”
– Key games: Lemont at Minooka Oct. 26, Evergreen Park at Minooka Oct. 19, Lemont at Evergreen Park Oct. 13.
– Predicted finish: Minooka, Lemont, Evergreen Park, Westmont, Lisle, Elmwood Park.
NORTH SUBURBAN
– Outlook: Libertyville looks tough again, with Stevenson and Lake Forest expected to mount pressure.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Defending champion Libertyville (lost in second round), Stevenson (lost in first round), Lake Forest (lost in quarterfinals), North Chicago (lost in second round), Fenton (lost in first round).
– Top players: DT Zalak Khan (5-10, 190), Niles North. OT Mike Robinson (6-1 1/2, 230), QB Brian Gerahty (5-10, 165), Lake Forest. TE Bill Malcolm (6-3, 190), Zion-Benton. FB-LB Mark Robich (6-4, 0), Stevenson. RB Buck Phillips
(5-8, 150), QB Johnny Johnson (6-2, 180), North Chicago.
– Quotable: Libertyville coach Dale Christensen: ”People who pick us (to finish first) are going on the past. We could challenge, but we don`t have all the aces.”
– Key games: Stevenson at North Chicago Sept. 8, Libertyville at Lake Forest Sept. 29, Lake Forest at Stevenson Oct. 12, Libertyville at North Chicago, Oct. 27.
– Predicted finish: Libertyville, Stevenson, North Chicago, Lake Forest, Warren, Antioch, Zion-Benton, Fenton, Mundelein, Niles North.
NORTHWEST SUBURBAN
– Outlook: Marian Central Catholic will get competition from Grayslake, which has three all-conference players, and Round Lake, which has 21 of 22 starters returning.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Marian Central won 2A state title. Grayslake (lost in first round), Round Lake (lost in first round).
– Top players: RB-S Brian Kaminsky (5-11, 185), OT-OL Jay Llamas (6-1, 185), Marian Central. QB Tom Culhane (6-3, 190), FB-LB Mark Sneyd (6-0, 220), RB Travis Lloyd (5-10, 170), Grayslake. OG-DE Steve Pressoir (6-3, 210), QB Mike Bragg (6-1, 180), Round Lake.
– Quotable: Grayslake coach Bill Johnson. ”We`re always everybody`s homecoming team. This year, we aren`t playing as many, and I see that as a real compliment.”
– Key games: Marian Central at Grayslake Sept. 21, Lake Zurich at Grayslake Oct. 19, Grayslake at Round Lake Oct. 26.
– Predicted finish: Grayslake, Marian Central, Round Lake, Lake Zurich, Wauconda, Johnsburg, Grant, Marengo.
PRIVATE SCHOOL
– Outlook: Luther South is the team to beat with defending champion Nazareth Academy the strongest challenger. Luther North rounds out top three.
– 1989 State Qualifiers: Nazareth Academy (lost in first round), Luther South (lost in first round), Luther North (lost in first round).
– Top Players: QB Marcel Kerr (6-2, 170), WR Steve Conley (6-6, 215), NG Gordon Baker (6-4, 285), Luther South. RB Matt Washington (5-10, 175), OT Jack Kozaritz (6-2, 230), Luther North. RB Lyron Brooks (6-2, 190), OT Jay Lo Co Co (6-1, 230), Nazareth Academy. RB-LB Monti Perry (6-2, 205), Walther Lutheran.
– Quotable: Luther South coach Tony Rainey: ”This year is different, we`re being hunted. The shoe is on the other foot.”
– Key Games: Luther S. at Nazareth Academy Sept. 29, Luther N. at Luther S. Oct. 20, Luther N. at Nazareth Academy Oct. 28.
– Predicted order of finish: Luther S., Nazareth Academy, Luther N., Chicago Christian, Aurora Central, Walther Lutheran.
PUBLIC CENTRAL
– Outlook: Dunbar looks primed to repeat as conference champ. The Mightymen, who averaged nearly 30 points a game last season, return three all-section starters. All-city back Johnnie Meekins (12 interceptions) and leading tackler Joseph Dunbar spark the defense.
– 1989 state qualifers: Dunbar (lost in first round).
– Top players: DL Jimmy Wilson (6-2, 260), RB Alex Kennedy (5-5, 145), QB Johnny Harris (6-1, 170), WR David Bell (6-1, 170), King. QB Tyree Ollie
(5-11, 160), RB Kevin Sellers (6-0, 170), WR Harold Wayne (5-11, 165), Dunbar. T Alfred Bickman (6-3, 235) Robeson. RB Richard Kimble (6-0, 165)
Tilden.
– Quotable: Phillips coach Carl Bonner on retiring after this season, his 32nd at the school: ”I`ve been saying I was going to for the last three or four years now. But this season it has a real ring of truth to it that even I can hear.”
– Key Games: Robeson at King Sept. 29, Dunbar at Robeson Oct. 5, King at Dunbar Oct. 19.
– Predicted finish: Dunbar, King, Robeson, Tilden, Phillips, Du Sable.
PUBLIC LEAGUE NORTH
– Outlook: Lane Tech lost All-State RB Alex Rodriguez, among others, but still has a strong offensive line and veteran coach Sam Bronswick (104-39 in 12 years of coaching at Lane). Young has strong lines, three speedy wide receivers and 13 starters returning.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Lane (lost in quarterfinals).
– Top players: DT Ismael Moreu (6-4, 265), CB-WR Delond Bush (5-10, 170), OT Richard Thomas (6-5, 270), Lane Tech. OT-DT Sherman Ginyard (6-1, 240), WR Marwin Powell (6-0, 175), DT John Cunningham (6-4, 265), Young. C Tim Simpson (6-2, 215), Schurz.
– Quotable: Lane Tech coach Sam Bronswick: ”Unless I`m mistaken, I don`t expect too much trouble from teams other than Whitney Young in our conference. Their kids (teams other than Young) aren`t physically better than our kids.” – Key games: Whitney Young at Lane Tech Oct. 19, Taft at Steinmetz Sept. 29.
– Predicted finish: Lane Tech, Whitney Young, Taft, Steinmetz, Schurz, Austin. PUBLIC NORTHEAST
– Outlook: Mather has a pair of Division I-caliber athletes in QB Sargon Khamo and OT-DL Martez Benas. Senn, which lost all but two starters on offense, still has size and talent on defense. Sullivan has a rookie coach and a team primarily consisting of juniors.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Senn (lost in first round).
– Top players: QB Sargon Khamo (5-11, 170), OT-DL Martez Benas (6-1, 220), Mather. RB Jermaine Fox (6-2, 215), C Salvador Perez (5-10, 210), DT-TE Tyree Brown (6-2, 200), Senn. RB Thomas Ingram (6-1, 180), Sullivan. RB Terrell Toney (5-11, 190), Roosevelt.
– Quotable: Mather coach Ed Miller: ”If we can`t beat Sullivan and Senn, we can`t be conference champs. And, to tell you the truth, if we can`t beat Sullivan and Senn, we don`t deserve to be conference champs.”
– Key games: Mather at Sullivan Sept. 21, Mather at Senn Oct. 12, Senn at Sullivan, Oct. 6.
– Predicted finish: Mather, Senn, Sullivan, Roosevelt, Lincoln Park, Clemente. PUBLIC NORTHWEST
– Outlook: Marshall has a huge line and an experienced team that should win the title. Crane and Collins will be there if Marshall falters.
– 1989 state qualifiers: Crane (1st round, lost to Providence); Near North
(1st round, lost to Oak Forest).
– Top players: RB Henry Bailey (5-10, 180), Collins. T Elias Reyes (6-2, 255), E Noble Williams (6-2, 190), FB Myron Williams (6-1, 230), Amundsen. S/RB Dion Jenkins (5-10, 175), OL/DL Walter Trimble (6-2, 190), Crane. DB Shentel Merritt (5-9, 170), Westinghouse. T Randy Simmons (6-1, 280), RB/S Dryal King (5-7, 170), CB Alex Morris (5-10, 160), Marshall. C James Crue (6-2, 245), Felix Ramos, G/LB (6-0, 195), Near North.
– Quotable: Marshall coach Ron Bellamy, on his players, ”They`ve got the guts and the athletic ability, now they just need to work on attitude and basic football skills.”
– Key games: Crane at Marshall Sept. 29; Collins at Marshall Oct. 5; Crane at Collins Sept. 22.
– Predicted order of finish: Marshall, Crane, Collins, Near North, Amundsen, Westinghouse.
PUBLIC NORTH/SOUTH
– Outlook: This league is wide open. But if defending champion Kelly can find a quarterback, it would be tough to beat. Kelvyn Park and Wells have enough returning talent to contend. Foreman looks to improve and Orr could benefit from a drop to the North/South.
– 1989 state qualifiers: None.
– Top players: RB Bob Burgert (5-6, 160), DT Paul Oden (6-0, 200), G Frank Bray (5-11, 220), T Rafael Gordillo (6-2, 215), Kelly. FB Angel Ortiz (5-8, 170), C Eric Williams (6-2, 220), Foreman. WR Gonzo Rodriguez, RB Kerossi Taylor, Lake View. TB Charles Jones (6-1, 175), C Manuel Giron (5-10, 195), FB Louis Novalez (5-11, 190), Wells.
– Quotable: Kelly coach Al Pretkalis, on his team`s inexperience at quarterback: ”We`re at the point where we`re having to teach them how to move their feet and drop back.”
– Key games: Kelly at Kelvyn Park Sept. 6, Foreman at Kelly Sept. 14, Kelvyn Park at Wells Sept. 28, Kelly at Wells Oct. 19.
– Predicted order of finish: Kelly, Kelvyn Park, Wells, Foreman, Orr, Manley, Lake View, Prosser.
