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Car salesmen cower when Barney Bargainer strolls through the showroom door. At least Barney thinks so. The “deal” is everything, and he knows how to play the game. After all, he learned the tricks about keeping the salesman off guard from his Dad, in the era of Edsels and Studebakers.

All he has to do is wear them down through the force of his dickering style. In the end, they’ll be lucky to wind up with any commission, and the dealership will earn a mere sliver of profit.

Mary Modern isn’t so eager to begin car shopping. She doesn’t like to dicker. A fair profit and a reasonable commission are one thing, but paying a higher price than an aggressive buyer would be annoying.

In 2001, Mary can arm herself with useful information and look for a dealership that welcomes the informed shopper. And she has learned that when you’re not happy with the way a purchase is progressing, walk away and try another dealership.

Barney and Mary are shopping for a mid-size family sedan. Barney has a wife and three kids. Mary is single, but often goes on trips with friends. Both are interested in sedans with spacious interiors, abundant cargo space and satisfying performance. Being easy on gas wouldn’t hurt, either.

Barney relies on one person to decide what car to buy and where to buy it: Himself. Sure, he listens to suggestions from his wife, Betty. But they barely register. He knows what’s best.

“The better-informed consumer always winds up with the better deal,” said auto analyst John McElroy, editorial director of Blue Sky Productions. “But not necessarily the lowest price.” In the end, you’re better off when you drive home the vehicle you’re seeking, even if it costs a little more, “rather than getting sweet-talked into something” you don’t really want.

But don’t tell that to Barney has glanced through a couple of product reviews of family sedans in the newspaper. He even thumbed through a car magazine or two, while waiting for Betty at the drugstore. His son, Jeff, suggested he do some research on the Internet, but Barney nixed that. “I use a computer enough at work. Don’t need to mess around with it at home, too. Anyway, I know what I want already.”

Having bought his last car from Beneficial Motors, Barney decides to try them first. “Wonder if that salesman Curtis is still there,” he says to himself. “Man, I really took that guy the last time.”

Curtis still works at Beneficial. And when he sees Barney coming, he practically gets into an argument with another of the salesman over the chance to deal with Barney. Curtis remembers him so well, he starts spending that extra commission.

“Well, hello there,” Curtis says as Barney glides between a convertible and a sport-utility, avoiding the sedans. “Great to see you again. Barney, is it? What can I do for you, Barney? Ready for a new car? Which model did you have in mind?”

Because he hadn’t really thought much about that, his voice stumbled. “Uh, not quite sure yet. Long as the price is right, though, let’s look ‘er over.”

This style customer tends “to come in with animosity, kind of with trepidation. They come in and try to be `gamesmen,'” said Dennis Wolff, a 15-year sales veteran with Bill Jacobs Chevrolet in Joliet. Rather than knowing what they want when they walk in, these customers tend to need more guidance. When necessary with such customers, he will talk price at the outset rather than waiting until later in the transaction, to help ease their minds.

Some customers still expect the back-and-forth selling techniques, Wolff said, whereby the salesperson takes the customer’s offer to the sales manager, who rejects it and tosses out a counteroffer–repeating the process until a figure is agreed upon. “Maybe you’re not in the right store,” Wolff says he tells some customers who appear to prefer that type of environment.

Mary Modern didn’t need to be told about the Internet, buying services or dealer Web sites. She was eager to use of all the resources in sight. Not that Mary wanted to turn the buying experience into an endless ordeal. But she was willing to invest a few days to get the best vehicle for a reasonable price.

First, she’d done some research in the local paper’s auto section. She also bought a car buying guide, such as Edmund’s and the Kelley Blue Book and consulted Consumer Reports magazine.

After narrowing her choices down, Mary submitted a purchase request to Internet buying services such as Autobytel and CarsDirect. Armed with her quotes, she set about to test drive an import and a domestic model.

Her research told her that an extensive drive was needed to make a proper evaluation, not a quick spin around the block. Mary was pleased to see that her first choice, Contempra Motors, looked different than the usual car dealership. No garish signs, for one thing, making lavish promises for “No Money Down.” The signs simply described some of the vehicles in stock.

Mary was impressed by the salesman. “Hello,” he said, “may I help you with anything?”

Mary smiled: “Yes, you can. I’ve been looking into the new Nishonta sedan. I wonder if I could test-drive one today.”

“Absolutely,” he said. “I’m Richard Subtle. Just tell me which version you’d like to drive–the base model or the step-up sedan–and I’ll get it set up.”

Wolff prefers such a well-informed customer. “They know what they want; they go out and find it. When they come in, they’re fairly ready to buy.”

Trade-in values are a “sticky point” in striking a deal, Wolff said. But here too, research can at least give a consumer an idea of what his or her old vehicle is worth.

When the negotiations begin, each of them will be given an “asking” price, somewhat lower than the car’s sticker indicates unless the model is popular.

During her research, Mary looked up the “dealer invoice” price for the car she likes on Web sites ranging from Microsoft Carpoint.com to Autobytel.com to Cars.com. But she also learned that this figure doesn’t necessarily reflect what the dealer paid for the car from the manufacturer, which includes advertising fees and holdback.

But because she has some idea of the car’s wholesale price, she’s better equipped to know when the negotiated sum is approaching a suitable point. And she’s willing to stop there, rather than dickering down to the last possible dollar.

Barney, oblivious to the fact that a dealership selling cars for less than they paid for them would soon be out of business, still heads for the ads promising cars for “$1 over sticker,” or even “below dealer invoice.”

“The best deal that you get is to shop at a dealership with all the information” you can obtain beforehand, said Art Spinella of CNW Marketing Research. “But haggle when you get there.” In other words, it pays to use elements of both methods.

In Spinella’s view, most dealerships have no preference as to approach. Good auto salespeople are ready to work with either type of shopper, though “they prefer to deal with somebody who comes in” on their own, rather than one who is sent by an Internet buying service, he said.

WHERE TO GO FOR INFO

Here is a sampling of Internet sites with information on new cars:

Manufacturers

Acura at www.acura.com

Audi at www.audi.com

BMW at www.bmw.com

Buick at www.buick.com

Cadillac at www.cadillac.com

Chevrolet at www.chevrolet.com

Chrysler at www.chrysler.com

Daewoo at www.dm.co.kr

Dodge at www.4adodge.com

Ferrari at www.ferrari.com

Ford at www.ford.com

General Motors at www.gm.com/

GMC at www.gmc.com

Honda at www.honda.com

Hummer at www.hummer.com

Hyundai at www.hmc.co.kr

Infiniti at infiniti.com

Jaguar at www.jaguarcars.com

Jeep at jeepunpaved.com

Kia at www.kia.com

Land Rover at www.LandRover.com

Lexus at www.lexususa.com

Lincoln at www.lincolnvehicles.com

Lotus at www.lotus-cars.co.uk

Mazda at www.mazda.com

Mercedes-Benz at www.mercedes.com

Mercury at www.mercuryvehicles.com

Mitsubishi at www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp

Nissan at www.nissanmotors.com

Oldsmobile at www.oldsmobile.com

Pontiac at www.pontiac.com

Porsche at www.porsche.com

Rolls-Royce at www.rolls-royceandbentley.com

Saab at www.saabusa.com

Saturn at www.saturn.com

Suburu at www.subaru.com

Suzuki at www.suzuki.com

Toyota at www.toyota.com

Volkswagen at www.vw.com

Volvo at www.volvocars.com

Local dealers

Chicago Automobile Trade Association at www.dealerlocator.com

Buying/pricing sites

Autobytel at www.autobytel.com

AutoVantage at www.autovantage.com

Autoweb at www.autoweb.com

Cars.com at www.cars.com

CarsDirect at www.carsdirect.com

CarSmart at www.carsmart.com

GM BuyPower at www.gmbuypower.com

InvoiceDealers at www.invoicedealers.com

Microsoft CarPoint at www.carpoint.msn.com

Others

Edmunds at www.edmunds.com

Consumer Reports at www.consumerreports.org

Kelley Blue Book at www.kbb.com