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* About 200 brands track sellers with Channel IQ

* Brands want to stop unauthorized discounting on Amazon

* Amazon’s 3rd-party selling platform a high-margin business

* Amazon reports quarterly results on Thursday

By Alistair Barr

SAN FRANCISCO, Oct 23 (Reuters) – Amazon.com Inc is

grappling with a problem that eBay Inc has struggled

with for years: The proliferation of unauthorized third-party

sellers that undercut the world’s top consumer brands.

The sellers offer online shoppers goods ranging from Guess

watches to LG televisions and Adidas sportswear at low prices,

upsetting Amazon suppliers who want the world’s largest online

retailer to crack down on unauthorized discounting.

On eBay, the brands mostly complained about counterfeit

products sold by third parties. The problem on Amazon is that

while the goods are authentic, sellers often get them from leaks

in supply chains, and then sell the products online at below the

minimum advertised price set by the label.

The brands want Amazon to help them weed out such sellers,

but the online retailer prefers not to get involved, according

to industry executives. Amazon declined to comment.

Amazon has little incentive to discipline sellers because it

takes a cut of third-party sales through its lucrative 3P (third

party) marketplace, these executives say. That business

accounted for 40 percent of Amazon’s second-quarter unit sales

and has provided a big boost to revenue and margin growth.

The 3P marketplace’s growth prospects will be front and

center when Amazon reports results on Thursday. This platform

for independent sellers is different from Amazon’s traditional

online retail business, known as 1P (first party), where the

company buys products from manufacturers at wholesale prices and

sells them online itself.

“Wall Street may be excited about Amazon’s 3P growth, but

it’s a freight train out of control,” said Wes Shepherd, chief

executive of Channel IQ, which helps companies monitor online

prices and sellers.

“Amazon is so big, manufacturers feel the need to be there,

but at some point something has to give,” he added. “Many major

brands are very frustrated and are rationalizing their business

with Amazon right now.”

Amazon shares have risen 40 percent so far this year,

outperforming the Nasdaq Composite Index’s 16 percent

rise in part because of hopes for improved profit margins from

3P and other services.

3P sales offer Amazon gross margins of 90 percent to 100

percent, while its traditional retail business has gross margins

of about 20 percent, according to Nomura estimates.

TRACKING DOWN SELLERS

To enforce the minimum advertised price, brands often

withhold sales to distributors and sellers that do not comply.

But when unauthorized sellers obtain a product without a

manufacturer’s knowledge, severing the flow becomes difficult.

Unauthorized sellers are also active on eBay, but since the

site does not specialize in brand-new products where pricing is

paramount and does not compete as a retailer in its own right,

the labels are less concerned about discounted goods there.

In contrast, Amazon treads a fine line because its retail

operation relies on brands supplying it with products, while the

3P operation needs lots of sellers competing on price to thrive.

“Amazon has to work this out with its suppliers,” said Scott

Tilghman, an analyst at Caris & Co. “They will say, ‘We

recognize third-party sellers violate rules, but we can only

police it so much.'”

He added: “Depending on the breadth of violations, it

definitely could dampen 3P growth.”

Some brands, including German chef knife maker W 1/4sthof, said

they stopped selling goods on Amazon after the company priced

some products below the minimum advertised price. When W 1/4sthof

complained, Amazon cited competition from third-party sellers,

according to Todd Myers, W 1/4sthof’s vice president of sales in

the United States. Myers said Amazon told W 1/4sthof to crack down

on these third-party sellers itself.

Others, such as Swiss Gourmet, distributor of Swiss Diamond

cookware in the Americas, have threatened to pull out unless

Amazon limits discounting and cracks down on unauthorized

third-party sellers.

Ralph Lauren Corp, Hugo Boss AG and Guess

Inc have all protested recently about unauthorized

sellers. Adidas AG plans to ban dealers listing its

products on Amazon and eBay starting in 2013.

LG Electronics USA started a new pricing policy this month

and may cut off sellers who break it.

It is not easy to curtail third-party sellers. For instance,

W 1/4sthof had severed ties with a seller called Abe’s of Maine.

But that company was able to obtain W 1/4sthof knives from other

distributors and continues to sell them on Amazon.com.

When contacted by Reuters, an Abe’s sales rep confirmed

Myers’ account. A search on Amazon on Tu esday showed Abe’s of

Maine as a third-party seller of 19 W 1/4sthof items.

“They can try as much as they can, but we will sell their

products still,” said an Abe’s employee who said he was a sales

representative named Lawrence but declined to give his surname.

It is difficult to know how many unauthorized online sellers

there are, but tracking them down for consumer brands is a

growth business, e-commerce experts say.

Since Channel IQ started its tracking service in 2009, the

firm has signed up about 200 manufacturers, including LG

Electronics, Olympus Corp, Harman

International Industries Inc and Weber Grills.

When Channel IQ started, it said it fielded complaints from

clients about eBay sellers that mostly focused on counterfeit

goods. EBay tackled this problem with a program called VeRO that

lets brands request listings be pulled if they suspect fake

items. In 2010, the focus shifted to Amazon.

“In 2011, complaints got louder. And this year it has become

frenzied,” s aid S hepherd o f Channel IQ.

Gerard Florendo, an e-commerce marketing analyst at Guess,

said third-party sellers on Amazon can price “way lower” because

of lower overheads. “We call it out whenever we see resellers

selling below the minimum advertised price, he said. “But we

don’t have a police force to enforce this. We are already

stretching our resources.”

Mark Harris, president of Swiss Gourmet USA , spends his

weekends checking Amazon for third-party sellers who are pricing

the company’s products below mi n imum ad v ertised pr i ces.

Swiss Gourmet has stopped selling to two dealers recently,

one t hat was selling on Amazon and another on their own website.

Some larger brands , such as Sony Corp, have had

more success. T he Japanese electronics giant cut off Abe’s of

Maine and also stopped suppliers selling to the retailer.

Sony ordered its own products from Abe’s and had the items

shipped to their offices. They then checked the product serial

numbers and use that information to find out which wholesalers

sold to Abe’s.

“They then threatened to suspend the wholesalers and not

sell product to them anymore,” the Abe’s sales rep said. A Sony

spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.