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By Roberta Rampton and Caren Bohan

WASHINGTON, Sept 7 (Reuters) – It seems that everyone in

Washington is talking about it except President Barack Obama:

When Congress votes on the administration’s request to use

military force in Syria, the future of his presidency could well

be on the line.

A defeat, a distinct possibility, would hobble Obama in

affairs both foreign and domestic, particularly if fellow

Democrats collaborate in it.

It will hurt him at a critical juncture, as he confronts not

only Syria, but the nuclear activities of Iran and North Korea,

another round of battles with Republicans over fiscal issues, an

immigration bill, and a possibly difficult nomination fight over

a new chairman of the Federal Reserve.

Using Obama’s presidency as an argument as Congress ponders

a resolution authorizing military action is off-limits for the

administration – it would make the debate about Obama and cost

the president votes from some Republicans he is counting on.

“My credibility is not on the line,” Obama said at a news

conference in Stockholm on Wednesday, five days after he

announced he would seek congressional authorization for a strike

on Syria over an Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack in that

country.

“The international community’s credibility is on the line.

And America and Congress’ credibility is on the line.”

ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

But if ever there was an “elephant” in a room, the Obama

legacy is it.

A ‘no’ vote would be a “catastrophe” for Obama, said David

Rothkopf, a former Clinton administration official who is now

president of Garten Rothkopf, an international advisory firm.

“It would ratify the perception of him as a lame duck at one

of the earliest points in recent presidential memory,” Rothkopf

said. “He would appear to be weakened and unlikely to get much

done during the remainder of his term.”

“I think a ‘no’ vote would be a huge slap at the president,”

said George Edwards, a presidential scholar at Texas A&M;

University. “It would seem to tie his hands.”

It would hurt Obama even more if many Democrats – members of

his own party – vote against him, which at the moment seems

likely.

House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner in particular

knows the consequences of being a leader with a diminished

following. During the fiscal cliff confrontation in December,

his fellow Republicans in the House defeated a proposal he

thought might help resolve the fight over tax increases and

heavy automatic spending cuts.

Boehner has since taken a back seat in confrontations with

Obama in part because he can no longer speak for his caucus in

the House.

Obama will confront a difficult challenge in October, when

he faces Republican demands to make spending cuts in exchange

for an increase in the nation’s borrowing limit, the debt

ceiling.

He faces another potential fight if he nominates Larry

Summers, said to be his current favorite to replace Ben Bernanke

at the Fed. Bernanke’s term ends Jan. 31 and the White House has

said an announcement on his successor is expected in the autumn.

At stake domestically in the Syria vote is the president’s

“political capital,” the influence that presidents gain with

every victory and lose with every defeat, particularly if they

have been personally engaged in the issue.

IMPACT ON NEXT CRISIS

Political capital is unquantifiable, and the impact on

domestic issues a matter of speculation. The significance of

defeat for Obama in the international sphere, beyond Syria, is

more clear.

Indeed, for Obama and his national security team, the vote

on Syria appears to represent a desire to get a clearer fix on

whether they can count on Congress if the Iranian nuclear

standoff comes to a head or North Korea escalates its

provocations to new levels, a U.S. official said.

A congressional “no” vote this time around would weigh

heavily against seeking congressional approval should Obama feel

the need to use force again.

Without reference to Obama, Secretary of State John Kerry

has painted a dire picture in hearings on the resolution. A ‘no’

vote from lawmakers, he and other officials have argued, would

embolden Iran and North Korea and make it more likely that a

terrorist group might use illicit weapons.

No one doubts that Republicans would use a defeat to their

advantage. A central Republican critique of Obama is that he is

a weak leader. A ‘no’ vote on Syria delivered in part by

Democratic lawmakers would strengthen their argument, just as

the administration is preparing for the fiscal battles of the

autumn.

While the administration has sought to divorce the issue

from Obama personally, the stakes for his presidency are on the

minds of many Democrats in Congress as they consider their

votes.

“Sure, you weigh that,” California Democratic Representative

George Miller, who has not decided which way to vote, told

Reuters in an interview. “You obviously weigh that, but that

cannot be the determining factor . … Obviously, I want the

president to succeed.”

But “when I run into my constituents,” Miller added, “I’ve

been asking them their opinion. They are very, very deeply

concerned about any involvement by us there.”

(Additional reporting by Rachelle Younglai, Warren Strobel,

Susan Cornwell, Susan Heavey and Matt Spetalnick; Editing by

Fred Barbash and Peter Cooney)